Monday, October 27, 2014

Community Safety Hyper-vigilantism. The Rise of. On the Road to Nowhere Not the man to lead the Jill Meagher march, in my opinion Herald Sun 1.10.12



The Rise of Hyper-vigilantism. On the Road to Nowhere.



According to the NSW Rape Crisis centre, only 1% of sexual assaults are committed by strangers. 

Hyper-vigilantes have weakened our community by turning on other citizens without due process. 

Citizens must advocate to authorities for community safety outcomes.


"Just so you know, I don't like the look of him, I thought you should know" 


is not a community safety nor national security issue

It is covert bullying. 

There ought be onus on citizens to be genuine in complaints. 


Pete Dowe



Letter to Herald Sun Blog by

Philip Werner, 

Leader/ Organiser Jill Meagher March




"Philip Werner here about whom you wrote this.I just read your blog post and I wonder if you read this one of mine? It explains where I’m coming from and what my motivations are.

All the women I have ever photographed in the Shibari bondage work have been friends and have done so willingly. Adults should be allowed to express their sensuality and sexuality without judgement so long as no one is hurt.

For you to compare one of my clay photos to a woman having been dug out of a grave is incredibly offensive and insensitive in this situation. Honestly I think that will offend more people than my photos will.I really have the sense that your intention is to incite strong reactions and divide people, rather than contribute to a peaceful and just society for which the march was intended.

I totally respect your right to try and expose people who in your view are doing the wrong thing, but a little more research, and perhaps a conversation with me might have been in order before assassinating my character.






The Rise of Hyper-vigilantism: On the Road to Nowhere. 



According to the NSW Rape Crisis centre, only 1% of sexual assaults are committed by strangers. 


Hyper-vigilantes have weakened our community by turning on other citizens without due process. 

Even Jill Meagher March Organiser/ Leader, Philip Werner, told the Herald Sun 

"perhaps a conversation with me might have been in order before assassinating my character."

Hyper-vigilantism does not contribute to a "peaceful and just society" Mr Werner.

No wrong-doing is exactly that.

Wasting time and effort intimidating law-abiding people 

does not address Crime!

nor is it Crime Prevention!


Citizens must advocate to authorities for community safety outcomes. 


"Just so you know, I don't like the look of him, I thought you should know"

is not a community safety nor national security issue. 


There ought be onus on citizens to be genuine in complaints. 



Our Community needs leadership on issues.


Led in the right direction the community will go there.


Led in the wrong direction and you have Nazi Germany.


When given no direction at all


you then have the Jill Meagher March.



Pete Dowe,



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Yes, a lovely gesture: 
Tens of thousands of people have RALLIED in inner Melbourne to mourn Jill Meagher, grieving her horrific death, and urging harmony and an end to violence in the community…


But that’s Philip Werner, as in the professional photographer of whose bondage pictures, severalgraphic, I dare show only the most “demure”:
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The model in one picture even looks like a bound woman dug out from the earth, perhaps a grave. And the sentiments expressed are a bit ... off:
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I don’t think Werner was an appropriate person to lead this march. Not for those of us who worry about the role pornography and the aggressive objectification of WOMEN play in sexual assaults.
(THANKS to reader R.)
UPDATE
Werner responds:

Hi Andrew,

Philip Werner here about whom you wrote this.I just read your blog post and I wonder if you read this one of mine? It explains where I’m coming from and what my motivations are.

All the women I have ever photographed in the Shibari bondage work have been friends and have done so willingly. Adults should be allowed to express their sensuality and sexuality without judgement so long as no one is hurt.

For you to compare one of my clay photos to a woman having been dug out of a grave is incredibly offensive and insensitive in this situation. Honestly I think that will offend more people than my photos will.I really have the sense that your intention is to incite strong reactions and divide people, rather than contribute to a peaceful and just society for which the march was intended.

I totally respect your right to try and expose people who in your view are doing the wrong thing, but a little more research, and perhaps a conversation with me might have been in order before assassinating my character.

Kind regards,


Philip


HAVE YOUR SAY

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Inappropriate to put it mildly.
I guess the only thing worse would be the Sex Party leading the march.
deric d (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (08:08pm)


Andrew, you have a problem with women willingly putting themselves forward for shoots?
Sorry I am unsure what the exact issue is…
Craigb of Melbourne (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (08:18pm)


Well spotted Andrew and well called.
It takes a brave person with a clearly defined ideological perspective to point out publicly a glaring hypocricy when everyone else is busy being caught up in the moment.
Werner is no person to be leading this march. He should instead take this moment to apologise for his eroticism of torture and shift to other subjects.
That is if he is truly shocked at what happened to Jill and not just “seeming” to be.... any decent man would, when faced with the reality.
J.H. (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (08:23pm)


I suppose you would have preferred your mate Alan Jones leading the march.
Peak Warming Man of Brisbane (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (09:22pm)


Sure, but what about the sexualisation of very young girls?
One of the pics on that site shows a mature female (30’s?) totally shaved. That is, looking like a pre-pubescent girl.
This is wrong, very wrong.
For grown women to want to look like 12yo’s is sending out a very sick message.
More so than a bit of bondage.
Joel B1 of Hobart (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (09:22pm)


Very creepy. Very odd.
Scratchpole of Perth (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (09:27pm)


The hypocrites always seem to make their way to the front of the cause....
Andrew of Morayfield (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (09:29pm)


Something very disturbing in this.
Leonie of East Gippsland (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (09:52pm)


I’ll just take the opportunity to say something you have no doubt heard countless times before: you are truly deispicable human being who will stoop to breathtaking lows in order to push your warped agenda.
Thunderoad (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (09:58pm)


I feel desperately sad for Jill Meagher’s husband and family, for their loss, and the way it happened. However, the response from the local trendy community, the ABC and the lefty mob is exactly what I thought would happen. Finally one of their “own” has been attacked and killed.
So instead of always bleating about society judging too harshly, the criminals who have had a poor upbringing, a hard life, been misunderstood and need to have society’s sympathy, suddenly the shoe is on the other foot.
It has happened to one of “them”. Different story now isn’t it?
And to see the leader of the campaign is someone who makes his living out of denigration and humiliation of women in his photography tops it off. What is it they don’t get? Why don’t they take responsibility for their own money making behaviour, that provokes the mind set that caused Jill’s rape and death?
Makes me positively ill.
Titch (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (10:13pm)



Grow up you old wowser. What did you do to protest the violence on women.
Big Ted (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (10:34pm)


Andrew was this really necessary - what is the point? The only post you can make about this impressive display of community spirit (or “nice gesture” as you condescendingly refer) is to point out something distasteful about the organiser.
Jacci of Armadale (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (10:50pm)


Someone organised the march. People came. The march took place. OK. Then along comes AB with his angst-ridden post hoc hand-wringing about the character of the person(s) who organised the march. Bondage, straps and whips? 
Ah for the perspective of the Addams family!
Gomez: [as he helps Morticia out of a trap] Leather straps, red-hot pokers!
Morticia: Later, my dearest. 
gkkk (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (11:29pm)


A letter to the papers tomorrow:-
How come the Jill Meagher marchers did not march to the police station that ignored the first reported harassment?
Who was it that said “prevention is better than cure”?
NevilleW (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (11:36pm)


Wow, what a revelation. Abominable in my opinion. What bitter irony.  If only all those women behind him knew of his talents.
Mary (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (11:48pm)


Given the events of the past week i should have thought that people like Werner would be keeping there heads down,obviously some people think that anything goes when its art!i wonder if the people who marched knew about these degrading pictures, he might well have found himself on the other end of the publics response .Peter. Adelaide.
peter of adelaide (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (11:53pm)


140 years ago the great Russian novelist Tolstoy foresaw that the art and literature of the future godless society that we inhabit would be reduced to studies on the themes of sex and ennui. Werner’s artistic pornography is the terminus of that line of expression. He was most definitely not the man to lead that march.
Anthony of Toowoomba QLD (Reply)
Mon 01 Oct 12 (11:56pm)


Well, that’s just plain weird.
John of Vic (Reply)
Tue 02 Oct 12 (01:04am)


I just surfed the first six pages of his blog. I saw the one post that other than full frontal stuff which would make it inappropriate to show here i thought was pretty tame.
Nothing that i thought should preclude him from feeling the same indignation and sadness for Jill and her family that the rest of us felt.
Perhaps you saw something i didn’t i read something i missed.
Chris F of Melbourne (Reply)
Tue 02 Oct 12 (01:52am)


I saw the front page of Sun today and looked at the signs the people were holding, and I thought as soon as I saw the man on the right, this man is grandstanding for himself.
Brendan87 (Reply)
Tue 02 Oct 12 (02:40am)


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